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Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:49 pm
by Crofter985
My goals with this project have changed a bit as I go along, I originally just wanted to strap a turbo on, screw up the boost, ride it till it melted. Well perhaps it's because it's taken me a lot longer to get where I'm at now (with a bit to do yet) that I'm a bit more interested in this bike being a regular ride bike, maybe not a over to the shop for a pint of milk bike, but if you did, it perhaps wouldn't need a rebuild after. Also since I was a teenager I have harboured ideas of some kind of bike or car build, I have had lots of ideas on turbos and general performance upgrading.
I have probably mentioned before but I'm building a dyno alongside this project and to make most use of this and to answer many of my questions on, "how and why", I am going to build the bike up in stages. That's one reason why the turbo is not fitted to the bike just now. My intention is to run the bike on the dyno first N/A with then go from there. It's got the stock cams in and is otherwise stock apart from the wossner piston, which should be stock compression ratio although I did not measure it.
So for one of the future dyno runs I am preparing a cylinder head.
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I have 3 spare cylinder heads but this one was the best for this mod, it's cam journals are good but the exhaust valve seats are well worn. It's really difficult to guess how this could have run in this condition but, ?, it must have. The plan here is to get the head fitted with 1mm oversize exhaust valves, the seats will be re cut to accept the valves by the import company for the valves who specialise in this. The valves are on order from a company called Manley, they will be of some kind of stainless steel made to handle high heat.
So I started by pressing out the valve guides, the exhaust guides were in poor condition, a bit crumbled at the end so there will be new ones fitted there and the inlet guides can go back in they were ok.
Then I went in with a knife and started scraping carbon out of the exhaust, then the emery tape after.
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I didn't really count how many hours it took to get it as clean as this but my fingers were some sore and I luckily found a new toothbrush so I used my old one for the harder to reach bits.
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It's come nice and clean now, I would like to think the volumetric efficiency would be better by this work but I think only a very small amount. If you look very closely at the bridge between the exhaust valves you will see a small crack, it is actually on all the heads I have, it must be a design flaw, the alloy between the valve seats seems to lift and crack. I sanded the bridge down to try to eliminate the possibility of it becoming a hot spot where detonation could come from. One way to get away from this would be to put bigger valve seats in to eliminate the alloy of the bridge, could be a direction to go in, in the future. There was some casting and machining steps I have smoothed out, so all that will help but I think it will give a good indication of the merits of the bigger valves. And of course it will be run on the dyno before and after.

Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:58 pm
by Sandblaster
Yes DYNO!!!!
That separates the "I think it's faster" to "I know it's faster :D
You need to get a dremel tool or a porting tool.

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It makes cleaning up those ports so much easier..
On the intakes I like to use 120 grit sandpaper first then 220.
On the exhaust I do the same thing but after the 220 grit I use a blue cross buff wheel and then red cross buff wheel..

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Get's that exhaust shiny!
Won't give you a penny's worth of horsepower doing the polishing but it will keep carbon from building up and hopefully keeping your starting HP longer.

Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:20 am
by Crofter985
I've never seen that crossbuff wheels. It would have saved me a bit of time, also I don't think the exhaust port is as clean as it would need to be for say a ceramic coating. I tried a company for the dynamic balancing, sent them an email, no reply as yet.
Did you get the PM I sent you, parts delivered. :)

Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:48 pm
by Sandblaster
Yeah, I was going over all of the video's at CC Specialties and ran into to one where he was using the cross buffs...
I'm so glad I found them.
Saves hours of diddling around :geek:

Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:49 pm
by Sandblaster
PS... I didn't get a PM.
IF it's flaky send one direct oem-cycle@comcast.net
Glad the stuff got there... Hope it's up to your needs.

Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:12 am
by Crofter985
in sure it will be just fine. Thanks again Mike. :D

Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:13 pm
by Crofter985
Hey mike,
Thanks for the parts. They are in very good condition. It was all well packed and arrived in perfect condition.
I was only home for a couple of days. So I did not do any more work on the turbo project.
There was a few packages along with your own one of interest.
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That's the dyno interface box with all the associated cables, that's the speed sensor on top of the cables. So lots to do when I get home for a bit longer. I am still waiting for the roller to be finished, two reasons, the deal with the engineers doing the job was it would just be done when they had no more urgent work to do and I underestimated the amount of work required. The bearings can stand up to 4000rpm, if it's not a A1 job at that speed it will be a problem. So it's not being rushed.
Anyway that's me away now for a while again so I'm not sitting waiting for it.

Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:33 am
by Sandblaster
Some things just can't be rushed... Can't wait though... 8-)

Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:52 pm
by Crofter985
This is my pitot tube. Made out of a bit of 14mm stainless bar.
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The three centre punch marks are for lining up the point if the tube into the airflow. The thread is 6mm metric fine.
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It will protrude into the inlet tract like so. Sorry for the poor pictures, low temps here again, my phone does not like it.
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Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:21 am
by Sandblaster
Nice that you put the wrench in there for size reference.
I hear a lot of people complain about the cold here.
But it's gotta be colder over there :?