Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build
- Crofter985
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Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build
Yeh it's probably not worth the big stick route, the guy is a busy guy, I emailed him the other week about it. If I play it cool, he will help with the transport, if I kick up, I will pay. That's how I see it. I know who he is, I could find him if I wanted to, he is a engine builder among other things, as in build an engine from scratch, a 1000cc four stroke single, mainly for sidecar cross. It looks a beast. It would be good with a turbo bolted on!
He emails back, never promptly, he's ok though, I think it will be all good.
Eventually.
It would be good if he would hurry up, even when I get the kit it will be away at the local machine shop for a while.
He emails back, never promptly, he's ok though, I think it will be all good.
Eventually.
It would be good if he would hurry up, even when I get the kit it will be away at the local machine shop for a while.
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Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build
Oh yeah... we have a lot of slow engine builders/machinists.
But usually they are the best.
I'm sure everything will work out fine if your patient.
That's typically the route I take.
But usually they are the best.
I'm sure everything will work out fine if your patient.
That's typically the route I take.
If bikes are for kids I'll never grow up.
- Crofter985
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Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build
400g for a standard rod. So it makes the Carrillo one at 467g a bit on the heavy side!!!
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Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build
Whoa!
She's got some girth!
But that may be the ticket for your boost..
She's got some girth!
But that may be the ticket for your boost..
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- Crofter985
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Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build
The wossner piston is 72g lighter than standard and the rod will be 67g heavier, still 5g the right way, I was just thinking about the pros and cons of shifting the weight from reciprocating weight to rotational weight, then when it's the rod and it's reciprocating and rotational weight, at that point I stopped thinking about it
, I can see good things and bad things with it all.
I think the main thing is if I put a high quality piston held on to the crank by a high quality rod, of the same weight it must be a little better. ?????? It's ordered now
I think the main thing is if I put a high quality piston held on to the crank by a high quality rod, of the same weight it must be a little better. ?????? It's ordered now
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Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build
I think you made a good choice... I love my Wossner stuff..
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- Crofter985
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Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build
If the rods are no use I will mount them on a bit of wood and put them in my living room as ornaments, those Carrillo rods are works of art.
Also sorting stuff out now with the vendor of that dyno bits.
Also sorting stuff out now with the vendor of that dyno bits.
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Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build
That dyno has me really intrigued.
If I didn't have so many projects going on right now I'd be all over it.
But, two bike builds, the epic KX500 engine rebuild with step by step instructions, micropolishing steel, and aluminum clear coating experiments has me over my head
If I didn't have so many projects going on right now I'd be all over it.
But, two bike builds, the epic KX500 engine rebuild with step by step instructions, micropolishing steel, and aluminum clear coating experiments has me over my head
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- Crofter985
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Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build
Micropolishing, what's that?
I saw, possibly on your K5 build, you got yourself a water blast cabinet? Is that what that is?
I saw, possibly on your K5 build, you got yourself a water blast cabinet? Is that what that is?
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Re: Crofter985'S KLX650C supermoto build
The water blast cabinet (Vapor blaster or Aqua blaster) cleans exceptionally well especially on aluminum and other soft metals but it does not polish.
Micropolishing will turn your steel parts into a slick finished chrome like surface which helps reduce wear and has shown significant HP gains in some more modern bikes.
In fact, KTM 450's are gaining about 2.5 HP having all the gears micropolished.
Here is some info from one company:
http://www.taylor-race.com/isotropic.cfm
Although the result of the REM(tm) process is a beautiful finish, it is Important to realize that the system does not polish the part. The process involves two steps. The first, referred to as the refinement process involves a chemical interaction on the surface of the part. A soft, thin (one micron) film is formed on the surface of the part. The part interacts with the ceramic media in a special vibratory tub, this film is physically removed from the "peaks" of the processed part and the "valleys" are unaffected. The chemically induced film re-forms only at the peaks that are interacting with the vibratory media, and the process repeats itself. Over time, the peaks are removed, leaving only the valleys, producing the improved micro finish. The second step is referred to as the burnish process. After the required micro finish is achieved, a mild alkaline mixture is introduced. After a relatively short period a polished, chrome-like finish is produced. In addition to the polishing effects, this step effectively removes all traces of the film formation from the refinement process.
Try this with your transmission:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyqTKn6Qs1w
Micropolishing will turn your steel parts into a slick finished chrome like surface which helps reduce wear and has shown significant HP gains in some more modern bikes.
In fact, KTM 450's are gaining about 2.5 HP having all the gears micropolished.
Here is some info from one company:
http://www.taylor-race.com/isotropic.cfm
Although the result of the REM(tm) process is a beautiful finish, it is Important to realize that the system does not polish the part. The process involves two steps. The first, referred to as the refinement process involves a chemical interaction on the surface of the part. A soft, thin (one micron) film is formed on the surface of the part. The part interacts with the ceramic media in a special vibratory tub, this film is physically removed from the "peaks" of the processed part and the "valleys" are unaffected. The chemically induced film re-forms only at the peaks that are interacting with the vibratory media, and the process repeats itself. Over time, the peaks are removed, leaving only the valleys, producing the improved micro finish. The second step is referred to as the burnish process. After the required micro finish is achieved, a mild alkaline mixture is introduced. After a relatively short period a polished, chrome-like finish is produced. In addition to the polishing effects, this step effectively removes all traces of the film formation from the refinement process.
Try this with your transmission:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyqTKn6Qs1w
If bikes are for kids I'll never grow up.