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Re: KX GURU Racing kx500 Engine in a 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:54 pm
by Sandblaster
Any time you put together a prototype you can expect to run into some issues... :o
This is a minor issue that will only effect you if you are using the TSR cases with the Panthera E-Start.


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As you can see there is quite a gap between the cases and the starter housing.
The Panthera starter housing has a lip around the outside edge.
The lip goes most of the way around.
I suspect that it is there for alignment.
The issue is that part of the lip hits on the case.


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So a little material has to removed from the starter housing lip area.



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Re: KX GURU Racing kx500 Engine in a 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:56 pm
by Sandblaster
I've got the starter housing ready to machine... Except I put a piece of tape over the vent area that is not shown in this pic..


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In this pic you can see the area of the Engine cases that is interfering with the starter housing.

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Here is what a stock case looks like in the same area.
As you can see it has much more recess in it then does the TSR cases do.


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Re: KX GURU Racing kx500 Engine in a 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:01 pm
by Sandblaster
After a little milling it fits like a glove..


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Re: KX GURU Racing kx500 Engine in a 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:03 pm
by Sandblaster
If you decide to do this project yourself but you don't have a milling machine, You can use a drill press, hand grinder, porting tool, Dremel, or a hand file :shock: Or, you could contact Sebastian before you buy a E-Start and ask him if he would be willing to machine that area off for you..
Here is what I used..


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Re: KX GURU Racing kx500 Engine in a 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:22 am
by Sandblaster
Prepping a 2 piece clutch cover and comparing to the TSR Billet cases


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Clearly I need to step up my game...

Re: KX GURU Racing kx500 Engine in a 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:52 pm
by Markee757
Wild work!

Where you getting your hardware?

Re: KX GURU Racing kx500 Engine in a 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:07 pm
by Sandblaster
The engine cases TSR products Australia
The 2 piece clutch cover I made.
The Electric Starter is from Panthera in canada
The titanium fasteners are from all over the world but mostly China, US, and the UK

Re: KX GURU Racing kx500 Engine in a 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:22 pm
by Sandblaster
It's time for some changes...
First step... Get rid of the ridge around the kick lever shaft output area.


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Next thing is to get rid of the splash guard for the filler plug.. :o
Cut number 1.


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Cut number 2


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A little mill/drill work..


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Re: KX GURU Racing kx500 Engine in a 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:43 pm
by Sandblaster
(In your best Arnold Schwarzenegger voice) unprogrammed mimetic polyalloy... liquid metal... :lol:


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I have never tried this product... We'll see how it works..


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Re: KX GURU Racing kx500 Engine in a 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:47 pm
by Sandblaster
After prepping the cover I taped the back side to keep the material in place..


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Because it Oregon... and it's cold and raining outside, I used the over to keep the temps up...
After applying the filler I let it sit for about 5 minutes then pulled the tape off...
Then I put it in the oven but left the door wide open to keep from over heating it.
My oven only goes down to 170f and that may be a bit warm :lol:


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